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McCain picks Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his vice presidential running mate
DENVER (AP) - John McCain has introduced Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, a conservative who shares his maverick streak, as his vice-presidential running mate in a startling selection on the eve of the Republican National Convention.
At a raucous rally Friday in the swing state of Ohio, McCain said he made his pick after looking for a political partner "who can best help me shake up Washington and make it start working again for the people who are counting on us."
McCain said that Palin was "exactly who I need. She's exactly who this country needs to help us fight the same old Washington politics of me first and country second."
Palin has a strong anti-abortion record, and her selection was praised warmly by social conservatives whose support Mccain needs to prevail in the campaign for the White House.
"It's an absolutely brilliant choice," said Mathew Staver, dean of Liberty University school of Law. "This will absolutely energize Mccain's campaign and energize conservatives," he predicted.
With his pick, McCain passed over more prominent contenders like Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, as well as others such for former Pennsylvania governor Tom Ridge, whose support for abortion rights might have sparked unrest at the convention that opens Monday in St. Paul, Minn.
The timing of McCain's selection appeared designed to limit any political gain Obama derives from his own convention, which ended Thursday night with his nominating acceptance speech before an estimated 84,000 in Invesco Field in Colorado.
Public opinion polls show a close race between Obama and McCain, and with scarcely two months remaining until the election, neither contender can allow the other to jump out to a big post-convention lead.
At 44, Palin is a generation younger than two of McCain's seven children. She also is considerably younger than Senator Joseph Biden of Delaware, who is Barack Obama's running mate on the Democratic ticket.
She is three years Obama's junior, as well - and McCain has made much in recent weeks of Obama's relative lack of experience in foreign policy and defence matters.
In its formal announcement, the campaign pointed to her powers as head of the Alaska National Guard and the mother of a soldier herself as evidence that she "understands what it takes to lead our nation..."
McCain has had months to consider his choice, and has made it clear to reporters that one of his overriding goals was to avoid a situation like 1988, when then-senator Dan Quayle was thrown into a national campaign with little preparation.
A self-styled hockey mom and political reformer, Palin was mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, population 6,500, until she became governor.
Palin flew overnight to an airport in Ohio near Dayton, and even as she awaited her formal introduction, some aides said they had believed she was at home in Alaska.
She is a former mayor of Wasilla who became governor of her state in December, 2006 after ousting a governor of her own party in a primary and then dispatching a former governor in the general election.
Posted by Reagan_Bush08 on August 29, 2008 at 10:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)
That was quick work....The buses haven't even left Denver yet and it's over. I think McCain and Palin should go back to Berlin after they win and give a speech at the same venue. This is great. Landslide for the republicans.
Posted by hrt98f on August 29, 2008 at 10:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Excellent choice!
McCain/Palin 08!
Posted by jhb on August 29, 2008 at 10:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What a laugh!
Posted by bulldog2 on August 29, 2008 at 10:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I bet ole Hillary is STEAMED!!!
Posted by nivrek04 on August 29, 2008 at 10:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Excellent choice? Aren't you the same people that have been complaining about Obama's "lack" of experience, but you approve of Mccain choosing some one who is a one term governor of a state, a state with a very small population at that, and just happens to be a young, attractive woman.
Posted by nivrek04 on August 29, 2008 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Then again, state governor's that lack experience are kind of the republican thing aren't they?
Posted by megjerden on August 29, 2008 at 10:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Who?
Posted by hrt98f on August 29, 2008 at 10:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Yes, and that's why she's the VP candidate, not the Presidential candidate nivrek04.
Go take a look at what she's done while in office in Alaska. She's pretty stinking impressive, and I think the Repubs made a VERY smart choice. She balances out the age quotient, she's smart, she's spunky, and she beat out the incumbents in her climb to the governor's seat in Alaska.
Again I say, McCain/Palin 08!
Posted by nivrek04 on August 29, 2008 at 10:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
She wasn't chosen for the work she has done as Alaska governor's. She was chosen to be the Republican equivalent to Obama, hoping that here youth and enthusiasm will carry the otherwise boring Republican ticket. W's policies with a pretty face are still W's policies. As Obama said, Enough!
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by Reagan_Bush08 on August 29, 2008 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Are you kidding me? Check out her voting records bub! You'll see why she was chosen.
Posted by bulldog2 on August 29, 2008 at 10:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Obama, who?
Posted by sdplm on August 29, 2008 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I am totally dumbfounded with this VP pick. I feel like McCain has thrown in the towel.
Posted by Reagan_Bush08 on August 29, 2008 at 10:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
sdplm.....you've got to be a democrat. I agree with you, you should throw in your towel and stay home in November.
Posted by littleknownfact on August 29, 2008 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I've voted republican all my life and this has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever seen. There are plenty of young legislators who have more experience than this. Who are his advisors, anyway? If I had any choice, I'd sure be looking for it now. Unfortunately, Obama's not it, either.
Posted by rampbrat on August 29, 2008 at 11:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
When I think Alaska, I think BIG OIL. They have enough influence in our govenment. I like the fact that she's a hockey mom. And anybody whose raised 5 children and become governor must be pretty good at multi-tasking. But considering McCain's age, her lack of experience
(less than Obama's) is not reassuring. I am pleased to see the Republicans choose a woman.
Posted by sdplm on August 29, 2008 at 11:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
McCain is a good man and a smart man. Only time will tell if this is a good decision or not. I believe there were many better prospects.
Posted by maggiedog on August 29, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Gutsy move. Good choice way to go McCain ! Now we have a horse race !
Posted by Gus on August 29, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Eeee Hawww! This election was just handed to Obama.
An insult to women that "any woman will do". A VP with less experience than Obama. hehe Go figure...there's your Prez when the old guy dies.
It's a great day for Obama/Biden!
Posted by Westhorn on August 29, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This is a smart and bold choice. John McCain proves once again that he is his own man, that he isn't afraid to take risks, and that is a true reformer. I'm glad that he chose someone who is outside the beltway (way outside).
Palin may be young, but she is a proven conservative and has a stellar record as a governor. I also challenge anyone to discredit the experience that raising 5 kids will give you.
Obama's non-record is completely different, he hasn't carried a single major piece of legislation...ever. He has no record to support his reelection to the Senate...much less President. Palin has done her job masterfully well and deserves a promotion.
Smart choice...best choice...
Posted by littleknownfact on August 29, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What are y'all smoking? Professional reporters don't even know squat about this woman besides that she has 5 kids and was an inexperienced governor. How do you know enough already to say what a "stellar record" she has? Links, please.
Posted by littleknownfact on August 29, 2008 at 11:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Watching her speech on CNN. She is pretty. So far, that's all I got.
Posted by sdplm on August 29, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Seems if you don't agree with the choice here you must be a democrat. All I am saying is McCain had better picks to choose from. The decision has been made now and it is up to the voters who wins.
Posted by TexasTwister on August 29, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"An insult to women that "any woman will do". As opposed to the dems stance this year that "no woman will do"? This is not "any woman"..you need to read her bio before going misogynistic on her.
She has more executive experience than either of the dems candidates.....unless, of course, you count the executive experience BO had serving as a domestic terrorist's lackey in a failed multi-million dollar scam.
Posted by TexasTwister on August 29, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
She just complemented Hillary and used her lines about shattering the last glass ceiling.....this woman is very, very sharp. It's gonna be fun watching the dems underestimate her and end up getting blindsided.
Posted by Tumbleweed on August 29, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
She's the more qualified to be president than the other three Obama/Biden/McCain, she's actually in charge of something.
Posted by ranchero63bob on August 29, 2008 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Just because Obama is a good speaker,does not qualify him to run this country.
Posted by Gus on August 29, 2008 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I am a woman. I've read her bio. This is clearly a lame attempt by McCain to capture the HRC voters. Their male assumption is that women just want a woman in the White House. Wrong. It's also a lame attempt to capture the younger voters who want a President younger than their great grandfather. Wrong again. You call executive experience Mayor of a rat hole town in Alaska and one year as Gov?? Plus she's being investigated for firing a state trooper who was married to her sister and fighting over child support. Nice.
This is hiliarous. Now you're all having to back down on the "experience" issue. The Rep spin on this is going to be dizzying, they are going to reverse so fast. Now limited experience will be just the right thing for this country...after months of bashing Obama.
The VP debates are going to be the show of the century. LOL!!
Posted by Gus on August 29, 2008 at 11:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
TT: It's "sharp" to quote someone else?? Please...
Posted by cottonball107 on August 29, 2008 at 11:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Lets get ready to rumbbbbblle!!.. Makes all this past mundane BS easy to forget. This is going to be fun...
Posted by Tumbleweed on August 29, 2008 at 12:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Everyone should be happy now...either we get the first woman vice president or we get the first black president, and either way nothing will change until we the people throw the entire congress out on their hind end!
Posted by littleknownfact on August 29, 2008 at 12:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
At least we know that McCain's people can keep a secret, unlike Obama's people.
Posted by dr__dawggy on August 29, 2008 at 12:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I cannot imagine the HRC voters will turn to McCain/Palin. Yes, she is a woman....albeit a woman who opposes much of what Hillary stands for--Palin opposes a woman's right to choose and opposes gay rights. These positions will certainly shore up the Christian conservative vote but will alienate moderates and independents and Hillary supporters. Not a good strategic choice in my opinion...
Posted by sdplm on August 29, 2008 at 12:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
There is still plenty of time for both parties to foul up even more than they already have.
Posted by blahblah on August 29, 2008 at 12:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ramp---you took the words right out of my mouth! OIL!!!
Very, Very Gutsy move.
This can be either very good or very bad move for McCain.
So is it the fact that she is a woman or that she doesn't have as much experience as others may pose that has everyone in an uproar?
Just curious what the reasons are...
Posted by Gus on August 29, 2008 at 12:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dr_dawggy: You are correct. Your comments are spot on.
Posted by TexasTwister on August 29, 2008 at 12:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So Gus, I guess you think nominating BO is the dems "lame attempt" to capture the black vote?
I haven't seen anyone backing down from the experience issue.....BO is running for President on possibly the shortest resume in US history. Believe me....that's still very much an issue in this campaign.
Posted by blueevo on August 29, 2008 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Too bad Bush can't run again. we need to change the Constitution to unlimited terms.
Posted by ropers40 on August 29, 2008 at 1:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
TT and Balin is a heart attack or stroke away from the presidency, but she does have two years experience.
If this is not calling the kettle black then I dont know what is.
Well one thing is for sure we will have either the first black president or the first woman to be vice president. We as a nation are making inroads into our own discriminatory practices that has plagued us for over 200 years.
Posted by scooter on August 29, 2008 at 1:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
To nobody's surprise, few minds were changed with the announcement. Dems spin it one way, republicans the other. Maybe one thing both groups can agree on is that McCain caught us off-guard with his choice. It caused me to do some research. Here is a link to Palin's page on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin
Posted by whatuthink on August 29, 2008 at 1:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
At 44, Sarah Louise Heath Palin is both the youngest and the first female governor in Alaska's relatively brief history as a state. She's also the most popular governor in America, with an approval rating that has bounced around 90 percent. She's been a crackerjack governor, a strong fiscal conservative and a ferocious fighter of corruption, especially in her own party.
In Alaska, Governor Palin challenged a corrupt system and passed a landmark ethics reform bill. She has actually used her veto and cut budgetary spending. She put a stop to the "bridge to nowhere" that would have cost taxpayers $400 million dollars.
Posted by ropers40 on August 29, 2008 at 1:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I have a question, if McCain became ill or worse, does she have the foreign policy experience to be able to deal with problems that might arise.
I can honestly say that for what I have read on her i am thoroughly impressed, but as with Obama where is the experience.
I feel like McCain is just wanting to further the GW legacy and that is something I will not back.
I like the ticket of Biden and Balin.
Posted by littleknownfact on August 29, 2008 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Why is she under investigation for potentially trying to get her ex-brother-in-law fired if she's such a "ferocious fighter of corruption"? http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/ap_ala...
Posted by huckster on August 29, 2008 at 2:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
wow! this pick actually has me toying with the idea of voting for mccain.
good pick. a blue collar woman who is not a life long politician. but in her experience she has accomplished some good stuff and bucked the status quo without playing party politics. very nice pick.
Posted by TennesseeDavis on August 29, 2008 at 2:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I think that is the key huckster, she isn't a lifelong politician. I can't say that I know enough about her to give my whole hearted endorsement, but just knowing that she hasn't been in this to get a govt paycheck her whole life says a lot to me.
I was never really thinking of voting for Barack, but I thought he had a chance to monopolize the change message with a good outside of Washington pick, then he caved to those saying he didn't have this or that.
McCain always fashioned himself as an outsider (typical politican bs) but with this pick, he spurns that same old, same old mentality that most of these things come down to.
Posted by txbsa35 on August 29, 2008 at 3:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
littleknownfact- I would say don't pass judgement or make an assumption on what happened. It's being investigated and I'm sure those people will come up with and answer. The ex-brother in law in question was suspened for 10 days for threatening to kill Palin's father & tasering his 11-year-old stepson. I'm thinking you wouldn't want someone like that working in law enforcement. It's all hearsay I suppose written by the same type of reporters who wrote the story your link goes too.
Posted by mbs0606 on August 29, 2008 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I also agree with BlahBlah and ramp. It's all in one 3 letter word.
Posted by dr__dawggy on August 29, 2008 at 3:24 p.m.
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Posted by Westhorn on August 29, 2008 at 3:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
littleknownfact: you bring up the only potential blemish to an otherwise pristine record. Is there something to the story...I suppose we'll all find out with time. That said...worse case scenario is that some of her staff put inappropriate pressure on the cop's boss. If it happened...that is bad.
Assume it did happen...weigh that against any number of Clinton scandals, Teddy's Chapaquitic, etc. If Palin wants to fit in with the Washington crowd she better ramp up her "corruption" to much higher levels.
For the guy who said how can we know about her record if the reporters don't know anything about her...I'm sorry man...but I do my own research and simply pay attention...I don't wait for the New York Times to tell me what to think...respectfully.
Posted by BigAbileneFan on August 29, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
For the Republicans, take a look at the reactions. Rush, Hannity and others are ecstatic.
For the Democrats, take a look at the reactions. LA Times, NY Times, Nancy Pelosi and others are angry.
Whether you are a republican or democrat, you must admit that the feeble old McCain helped his cause.
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Posted by sharpshooter on August 29, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I grew up in Texas and moved to Alaska in 2006 and last year I told my wife the Palin would probably be the first woman president. She is very impressive and has done a far better job than any governor we had in texas.
She has more experience than you think and would be an excellent VP and get that experience and then become President.
Posted by BigAbileneFan on August 29, 2008 at 4:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You have to admit that she's taking on the "establishment". That's more than you can say about her running mate, McCain, with his ultimately corrupt McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform Bill. We'll see just who wears the pants. He, just like the Bush/Clinton/Kennedy's of the world, is a career politician. She's not and has proven to reject that. Maybe she's the person that actually wants to give America back to "We the People". Even if it means taking on her own President/Boss.
Posted by TexasTwister on August 29, 2008 at 4:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Leave it to classless dr dawg to refer to her with a crude slur.
Posted by cadechar on August 29, 2008 at 4:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dr_dawggy, McCain/Milf? Is Milf an Alaskan word for Palin, or is there some other story behind that?
Posted by cadechar on August 29, 2008 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Oops...maybe twister added some insight while I was typing.
Posted by teh_freaky on August 29, 2008 at 4:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Typing out what "MILF" stands for would likely get your comment deleted.
That term is crass and tasteless in my opinion.
Posted by huckster on August 29, 2008 at 5:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dr_dawggy, you used to impress me. that is no longer the case.
typical democrat who wants to be the party of women but then treats one with such a complete lack of respect.
Posted by tbaggs on August 29, 2008 at 5:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
For the dems who think that Palin has no experience and McCain has just given the election to Obama. You should remember that Obama has even less experience and no experience as an "executive." Plus, there are several notable Presidents who had little if no more experience than Palin--both Dems and Republicans. Notables ones are Reagan, Carter, Clinton, and the second Bush.
Posted by dalai-llama on August 29, 2008 at 5:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So, wait, lemme get this straight...
It's totally bad that Obama doesn't have any experience, but experience doesn't matter?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that her two terms on the Wasilla City Council weren't really enlightening. I'm just trying to figure out how anyone can make a post with that much cognitive dissonance and not have his head explode.
Posted by dr__dawggy on August 29, 2008 at 5:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I do not think McCain has given the election to Obama. I think McCain has shored up his base, which he sorely needed to do.
Palin' announcement today pandered to potential Hillary voters and on this score Republicans will fail. Hillary supporters want more than a woman. They want a woman who shares their political views. This attempt may actually backfire as those who were Hillary supporters understand just how little McCain and Palin represent their views.
Posted by junebug on August 29, 2008 at 5:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Palin is under investigation in Alaska for abuse of power . . . yeah, what a choice!
Posted by littleknownfact on August 29, 2008 at 5:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Pardon me, Westhorn. With her vast political experience, that one little sniff of questionable ethics shouldn't even have made it to print, I guess. I asked for links about all these great things she's done, and don't, as yet, have any. Why don't your share all your research. Something other than Wikipedia would be good.
Posted by tbaggs on August 29, 2008 at 5:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Dali
If you're referring to my comments, I never said it's bad that Obama has no experience and good that Palin has none. I can point to great presidents who have no Washington "experience." Good governors can make good presidents. I'm more concerned about Obama's policy statements, etc., than his lack of experience. Besides, why not compare Obama's experience and Palin's. It appears as though she trumps him, and she's not running for President.
Posted by dcamp1geico on August 29, 2008 at 5:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I moved to Alaska from Abilene and I would like to say that Sarah Palin has been nothing but positive for Alaska. She really thinks about the people and how she can better her state. I believe that Palin would be a GREAT ASSET to the country.
Posted by dalai-llama on August 29, 2008 at 6:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Tbaggs, I was using your post as a jumping-off point.
You may not have disparaged Obama's lack of experience, but that has been the main narrative of the campaign you're supporting. It's been about the only point that has gotten them any traction at all, in fact, and the argument that Palin is more experienced than Obama is laughable. She's been governor less than two years, and before that she was mayor... excuse me, she was "The Executive" of a town with a population just over four times the size of MY HIGH SCHOOL.
She's an interesting character, don't get me wrong, but this is the end of the "experience" talking point.
Posted by ces on August 29, 2008 at 6:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
First of all, THE ONLY thing she adds to McCain's ticket is some diversity (ie. youth and gender). Funny that Republicans complain about Obama's lack of foreign policy, but this lady has absolutely NO foreign policy credentials or experience whatsoever.
Second, it's also contridictory that many Republicans complain that Obama is too inexperienced to be President, yet this woman, having obtained only a bachelor's degree, having served 2 only two years as the Governor of a state with the population of 670,000 (pretty much equivalient of being the mayor of Fort Worth), and having served as mayor of a town with a population of a whopping 9,000 ("I'm going to become Governor of Sweetwater... that will qualify me to become President!) is qualified to become be Vice President (President if McCain were to die.)
And finally, to those of you who are saying that she's qualified because she's "raised" 5 children. Umm... no. Check out the ages of her children. Only one is an "adult". One is actually a baby, and she returned to work 3 days after his birth. She has not "raised" her children, her children's upbringing are the product of a nanny.
Posted by reaganite on August 29, 2008 at 6:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So, the ever tolerant libs took no time to brand Palin a MILF.
I know what MILF is in the Western sense, I wonder how long before it is twisted into the Filipino sense...
Posted by tbaggs on August 29, 2008 at 6:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Dali
I would not say that the experience discussion regarding Paulin is laughable. If you count it, it is obvious she has more than Obama. You mentioned her being mayor. What about her governorship? That IS "executive" experience! In fact, she has more executive experience than McCain, Obama, and Biden put together: they have none. What has Obama done? I have heard many reporter-types ask dems what he has done, and I have heard nothing in response. Can you name anything he has done? I'm asking a serious question.
Posted by ropers40 on August 29, 2008 at 6:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Lets be honest about this whole mess, on one hand we have a young man running for president that has little experience, but a VP with a lot of experience. On the other hand we have a man approaching his eighties that has some health issues but has a lot of policy awareness, his VP has very little experience at governing or foreign policy.
I would think it was a no brainer.
Its really not hard to figure out that you dont want someone possibly inheriting the white house that is basically clueless.
Posted by dr__dawggy on August 29, 2008 at 6:44 p.m.
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Posted by reaganite on August 29, 2008 at 7 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dr__dawggy
Pathetic.
Posted by tbaggs on August 29, 2008 at 7:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ropers
I would wait a while before I say that Palin is clueless. Give her some time before you suggest that you know her.
Posted by dr__dawggy on August 29, 2008 at 7:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Reaganite, I believe the site I linked was put up by her less humor challenged supporters
Posted by ropers40 on August 29, 2008 at 7:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
That was actually a crack at McCain basically saying Obama is clueless when it comes to experience. She is as clueless as McCain makes Obama out to be.
IF McCain croaked in the first year of office would you really want her taking over the running of the greatest nation in the world.
I seem to be the only one who is willing to admit that with McCains past health problems we should really be looking at the VP for who might end up being the commander and chief.
Posted by rannc on August 29, 2008 at 7:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Executive experience means that you get your Departments to submit a budget for your approval. It means dealing with your department heads to understand their goals for their particular organizations. You get the idea.
Governor Palin has four years more Executive experience than McCain, Obama, or Biden.
Karl Rove, as usual, is brilliant!
Posted by reaganite on August 29, 2008 at 7:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ropers40
"IF McCain croaked in the first year of office would you really want her taking over the running of the greatest nation in the world."
And you want Biden?
Posted by ropers40 on August 29, 2008 at 7:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
so rannc you think she should actually be the nominee. Lets be truthful about a Governors role in running the goverment, they say yes and no to their dept heads then get overidden if what they want is not in line with the rest of the goverment body.
Or in the case of our governor goodhair, sits and does nothing but primps in front of a mirror and says how pretty my hair is.
Posted by lec1727 on August 29, 2008 at 7:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As a HRC fan, I was on the fence about who to vote for in November. What I've read about Palin, I like and I'm impressed with her. McCain/Palin 08!!
Posted by reaganite on August 29, 2008 at 7:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ropers40
You libs claim those that will not vote for Obama are racists. Hmmm, what does this say about you?
"Or in the case of our governor goodhair, sits and does nothing but primps in front of a mirror and says how pretty my hair is."
You're a sexist?
Posted by dalai-llama on August 29, 2008 at 7:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"Can you name anything he has done? I'm asking a serious question."
In Congress, he's been point man on legislation to secure our nuclear weapons, reform ethics, and limit the use of no-bid contracts. He's been behind legislation to secure benefits for disabled veterans, he supported the expanded G.I. Bill, and he was way out in front on the bird flu.
In the Illinois legislature he passed similar ethics legislation, dramatically expanded health care coverage for uninsured children, and sponsored a welfare reform bill.
That's the stuff I can remember without going to his campaign site, which I'm sure will have more. Much of that, particularly in the Illionois legislature, was achieved only because of his effectiveness at building bipartisan support for his proposed legislation.
Personally, I like Palin. As governor or mayor, she's definitely the goods, but I'm sorry... less than two years' experience in a marginally "executive" role does not stack up to Obama's record of being a proven leader who builds solid coalitions to achieve intelligent goals. That's exactly the kind of leadership that this country needs right now, and Obama is the only one in a position to deliver.
Posted by ropers40 on August 29, 2008 at 7:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
NO reaganite I am realist and I say it as I see it.
Get your facts straight before you spew your venom at me. I have never said that people will not vote for Obama because he is black, or half black to tell it the right way.
As for being a sexist then why in the hell would I be hoping that Kay Bailey Hutchinson runs for governor and wins, I think she rocks.
The difference between you and I is that I look at the whole picture, just not the rose colored glass side that you look thru.
Like I said get it straight before you spew that crap at me.
Posted by dalai-llama on August 29, 2008 at 7:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"You libs claim those that will not vote for Obama are racists. Hmmm, what does this say about you?"
I don't see that anywhere in this thread, and I can't recall any of the regular "libs" making that argument in a serious manner. Are you throwing up strawmen again because they make good Fall decorations, or would you mind dropping some links to show me where any reputable representative of the Democratic Party (or left-wing element of comparable standing) has said this?
"You're a sexist?"
Anyone who competes in a beauty pageant pretty much forfeits the right to get bent out of shape over being called MILFy. That's like a stripper getting riled over the objectification of women.
Posted by ropers40 on August 29, 2008 at 8:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dalai, reganite only gets bent out of shape when someone says something that hits home. I have learned to live with it as many have.
I will say that i do like arguing with him, and he does make some good points sometimes, as everyone in here that i may not agree with also make.
Posted by ropers40 on August 29, 2008 at 8:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
True objectivity can only be accomplished when a person refuses to feed into the hype that others feed them.
Posted by dalai-llama on August 29, 2008 at 8:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"As a HRC fan, I was on the fence about who to vote for in November."
That seems like an interesting switch, given McCain's record on women's issues. I'm curious: which parts of Hilary's platform convinced you to vote for her, and what has convinced you that McCain will support them?
Posted by rannc on August 29, 2008 at 8:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dalai,
Obama sure didn't vote much at all!
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/co...
You folks looking for the Messiah need to face facts. He got in the Senate and immediately began campaigning for POTUS.
Scares me, that level of audacity.
Posted by robertwp on August 29, 2008 at 8:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"As for that VP talk all the time, I still can't answer that question until someone answers for me 'What is it exactly that the VP does every day?'....."
Alaska Governor Sarah Palin: July 31, 2008
Posted by dalai-llama on August 29, 2008 at 8:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Rannc,
Daddy's drinking tonight; I feel awfully mellow and generous.
Are you sure you want to use that source to point out Barack Obama's missed votes? Is there maybe some part of your argument that you want to add or modify or something before I respond?
Posted by reaganite on August 29, 2008 at 8:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dalai-llama
"I don't see that anywhere in this thread, and I can't recall any of the regular "libs" making that argument in a serious manner."
Are you really trying to claim that you libs have not made the "racist" statement? Just because it hasn't been said on this thread?
BTW, the sexist statements by you libs have been repeated over and over on this thread alone.
Really, do you really want to contest you lib's talking points?
Posted by reaganite on August 29, 2008 at 8:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dalai-llama
"Are you sure you want to use that source to point out Barack Obama's missed votes? Is there maybe some part of your argument that you want to add or modify or something before I respond?"
It's from WaPo, hardly a "right wing" site.
But hey, in the Obamessiah's own words...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj6syU...
Posted by dalai-llama on August 29, 2008 at 9:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"Are you really trying to claim that you libs have not made the "racist" statement? Just because it hasn't been said on this thread?"
Yeah. That's exactly what I'm saying. You made a sweeping generalization:
"You libs claim those that will not vote for Obama are racists."
I don't think you can back it with anything substantial. If it helps, I'll give you a starting point: you might be able to find something claiming that race influenced a percentage of voters in the West Virginia Democratic Primary. It doesn't really support your point, of course, but if you're clever about your response you should be able to sway readers who aren't paying much attention.
"BTW, the sexist statements by you libs have been repeated over and over on this thread alone."
A poster named "Reaganite" whining to the P.C. police about sexist language? This election is gold.
Posted by dalai-llama on August 29, 2008 at 9:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh, yeah. No, I wasn't trying to impugn the Washington Post's credibility.
I was just hinting at the fact that their political section has a really well-designed user interface that makes it pretty easy for anyone
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/co...
who wants to, you know, compare stuff.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/co...
Stuff like missed votes,
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/co...
maybe even compare different Congresses.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/co...
Stuff like that.
Posted by reaganite on August 29, 2008 at 9:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dalai-llama
"Yeah. That's exactly what I'm saying. You made a sweeping generalization:"
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-fin...
http://www.nj.com/elections/index.ssf...
http://www.blackvoices.com/blogs/2008...
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article....
http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2008/08...
http://ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.co...
No, you libs have never spewed the "racist" line...
Posted by rannc on August 29, 2008 at 9:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dalai,
I see liberals as wanting change when not a whole lot is wrong with our way of life.
You folks only see what you don't have instead of what you do have. Like your continued ability to enjoy the Pursuit of Happiness, which is an amazing concept for mankind given to us by the Founding Fathers of this Country.
Liberals want that Pursuit changed to a Guarantee. Don't like the Pursuit part, do you?
That's the difference. Yes, there are two Americas. Those who give and those who want to take. And you folks will be beat down again.
The problem that I have with McCain is that he tried to reason with you idiots. Maybe he got that from being a POW in Vietnam for so many long years.
Posted by reaganite on August 29, 2008 at 9:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dalai-llama
"I was just hinting at the fact that their political section has a really well-designed user interface that makes it pretty easy for anyone"
So, by the links you provided, Obama missed 45.5% of the votes and voted 96% along party lines, McCain missed 9% and voted 79.4% along party lines, and that says exactly what for whatever "point" you are trying to make?
Did you even read your own links?
Posted by dalai-llama on August 29, 2008 at 9:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"...that says exactly what for whatever "point" you are trying to make? Did you even read your own links?"
Did you bother to read the post to which I was responding? I'll be happy to quote it for you if your scrollbar is broken.
You should also note that I didn't say that "libs" had never spewed the racist line. You can always find some crank (and you found several) with an axe to grind, or a commentary on a commentary. The only reason I took issue with your statement was because you sweepingly included all "libs" and implied that we were calling all McCain voters racist. The closest thing you found to a credible statement of any authority was the union boss to whom some fool gave a podium, and it should be noted that the article you linked says, "Open talk about racism here is also rare."
However, since he was given the floor at the DNC, I'll concede the point and you can chalk yourself up a win.
Posted by dalai-llama on August 29, 2008 at 9:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"I see liberals as wanting change when not a whole lot is wrong with our way of life."
I see liberals as wanting blue coconut slushies.
I knew our country was awesome, but I guess I just didn't realize it is so completely and totally awesome that there's no room for improvement.
"You folks only see what you don't have instead of what you do have."
Actually, we see what those around us don't have and work to address that. Things like health care, mental health coverage for our veterans, civil rights, all that silly little inconsequential stuff.
"That's the difference. Yes, there are two Americas. Those who give and those who want to take."
There are two Americas: those who like blue coconut slushies, and those who don't.
"And you folks will be beat down again."
In the end, we will get the government that we deserve. Of that I am sure.
"The problem that I have with McCain is that he tried to reason with you idiots. Maybe he got that from being a POW in Vietnam for so many long years."
I don't even know how to begin to respond to this. It is such a pure, crystalline masterpiece of moon-man craziness that even attempting to address it would be like farting on the Mona Lisa.
Posted by ropers40 on August 29, 2008 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
rannc: you say you see libs wanting change when there is nothing wrong. I now work two jobs to make ends meet, eight years ago i didn't, I would say something is seriously wrong. I am glad that you feel like things are good and I feel better knowing that you don't have to cut back to buy gas and food.
The problem is that you are in the 22% of Americans that actually believe GW has done good for the US.
I look at how I am living my life now compared to when GW took office, and it sucks.
Keep on spouting you good fortune and you might just end up like the rest of us that are having to live with the great GW'S running of this country.
BTW I am actually middle management in the hire of the state of Tx and middle management in this state is barly 30 G's a year, do you live on that wage and support a family.
Posted by reaganite on August 29, 2008 at 9:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dalai-llama
"Did you bother to read the post to which I was responding?"
Umm, I actually quoted you quoting that post, or did you miss that?
"The only reason I took issue with your statement was because you sweepingly included all "libs" and implied that we were calling all McCain voters racist."
Umm, no, I didn't. I said or do you want me to quote myself that what I said was "Are you really trying to claim that you libs have not made the "racist" statement? Just because it hasn't been said on this thread?". Oops, I just quoted myself.
You can twist and distort all you want. I provided links that proved my point and you also provided links that proved my points as well as well as rannc's.
As you said earlier "Daddy's drinking tonight; I feel awfully mellow and generous."
"Daddy" should sleep it off...
Posted by reaganite on August 29, 2008 at 9:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ropers40
"I look at how I am living my life now compared to when GW took office, and it sucks."
George Bush is not at fault for your bad choices, you are.
Posted by dalai-llama on August 29, 2008 at 10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"So, by the links you provided, Obama missed 45.5% of the votes and voted 96% along party lines, McCain missed 9% and voted 79.4% along party lines, and that says exactly what for whatever "point" you are trying to make?"
Oh, haha. The Wild Turkey's kicking in, sorry; I'm getting thick. I thought my little narrative explained them adequately, but I guess it was tongue-in-cheek enough that it didn't communicate well.
Rannc was trying to punk out Obama by saying that he was so busy running for President he missed an inordinate number of votes.
My first two links highlighted (highlit?) the missed votes for each of the candidates in the 110th Congress:
Obama: 45.5%
McCain: 63.8%
The second two links compared both candidates' votes during the 109th Congress, when neither man was running for President:
Obama: 1.7%
McCain: 9%
In both years, McCain missed significantly more votes than Obama did, making missed votes kind of a curious hill on which to make a stand.
Posted by dalai-llama on August 29, 2008 at 10:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"...what I said was "Are you really trying to claim that you libs have not made the "racist" statement? Just because it hasn't been said on this thread?"
Oh, sorry. You're right again. You realized the error you originally made, narrowed your statement to correct yourself, and then I missed it. I'm not perfect, I just act like I am.
"'Daddy' should sleep it off..."
What fun would that be?
You've already taken me to the cleaners on one point of contention; you should be encouraging me to stick around.
Posted by rannc on August 29, 2008 at 10:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ropers40,
I make the same as you do, and I also work for the State of Texas. We probably pass in the halls!
The measure of wealth is relative. I don't need much, so I don't want much.
My lot in life is not the concern or fault of the Federal Government. It's my responsibility.
Posted by reaganite on August 29, 2008 at 10:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dalai-llama
"In both years, McCain missed significantly more votes than Obama did, making missed votes kind of a curious hill on which to make a stand."
I'll concede that point.
But you do know that you proved that Obama lied last night when he said that McCain voted 90% for Bush, right?
Posted by reaganite on August 29, 2008 at 10:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dalai-llama
"You've already taken me to the cleaners on one point of contention; you should be encouraging me to stick around."
We cross-posted, I kind of already did...
Posted by cadechar on August 29, 2008 at 10:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I still would like dr_dawggy or dalai-llama to explain what milf means. I can't find it in my dictionary.
Posted by reaganite on August 29, 2008 at 10:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
cadechar
"I still would like dr_dawggy or dalai-llama to explain what milf means. I can't find it in my dictionary."
Google is your friend.
Posted by dalai-llama on August 29, 2008 at 10:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"But you do know that you proved that Obama lied last night when he said that McCain voted 90% for Bush, right?"
Meh. I'm willing to chalk that one up to easy rounding for speech purposes. A quick googling says McCain voted with Bush 95% of the time last year (and considerably less earlier in his Presidency), but I honestly haven't watched Obama's speech, so I can't speak to any specifics about what he was trying to claim. (My source:
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck... )
I mostly don't fault politicians for voting along party lines. I begrudge McCain's votes that supported Bush because I disagree with Bush's policies, not because I think it's inherently bad for politicians to vote with their party. With some exceptions (I'm pro gun ownership, for example), I think parties are a reasonably good way for people with generally similar concerns to try to pool resources.
Posted by reaganite on August 29, 2008 at 10:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"I think parties are a reasonably good way for people with generally similar concerns to try to pool resources"
In some ways I think America is due for another revolution.
Our government was never intended to be a two party system.
I'm a firm believer that if term limits are good for presidents, they are equally good for congress.
Posted by dalai-llama on August 29, 2008 at 10:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
To be perfectly (drunkenly) honest, this is one of the areas where I most keenly feel my lack of education. I feel like we are not well served by having only two parties, but I am not well-versed enough in other countries' systems to make an informed comparison.
I would like more options and, frankly, I would like the Democrats to show a little more huevos. In the meantime, I guess we'll get along as best we can with what we've got.
I agree with you that America is due for another revolution. I think (hope?) the people are getting tired of being pushed around and told not only WHAT to think, but told NOT to think. Every time Tumbleweed makes one of his "Throw the bums out!" posts, I find myself agreeing with it more.
Posted by reaganite on August 29, 2008 at 11:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dalai-llama
" Every time Tumbleweed makes one of his "Throw the bums out!" posts, I find myself agreeing with it more."
It's pretty simple, with the system we have now we have two choices. Most of the time it's 180 degree choices.
Congress made the law that Presidents have term limits. Congress should impose the same limits on themselves.
But we both know that will not happen.
I have mostly voted along party lines only because I have no viable third choice.
I will vote for McCain while holding my nose.
His choice for VP was aimed at centrist republicans like me. Because he is mostly a RINO.
I want a viable third, fourth, fifth, etc. parties.
But until we as voters get rid of the bums on both sides, we'll get more of the same.
As much as you libs hate the Iraq war, more Iraqis vote percentage-wise than Americans.
How sad is that?
Posted by dalai-llama on August 29, 2008 at 11:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"As much as you libs hate the Iraq war, more Iraqis vote percentage-wise than Americans. How sad is that?"
I'm kind of cynical. When the Iraqis have had 230 years of democracy, they won't give any more of a rip about civic involvement than most Americans. They'll be more interested in voting for the next Iraqi Idol winner.
Sick as it seems, I think that will probably be progress.
Okay. I'm out. Tomorrow I'll probably go right back to being my usual arrogant, snide, self-righteous self, but I've enjoyed it. Have a good night, Reaganite.
Posted by reaganite on August 29, 2008 at 11:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dalai-llama
"I'm kind of cynical. When the Iraqis have had 230 years of democracy, they won't give any more of a rip about civic involvement than most Americans."
I know you don't agree with the reasons, but maybe, just maybe, Iraqis will be having the same arguments 230 years from now that we are having now. And just that will make it all worthwhile.
"Have a good night, Reaganite."
You too, I'm out as well.
Posted by dr__dawggy on August 30, 2008 at 8:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
reaganite:
I will vote for McCain while holding my nose.
His choice for VP was aimed at centrist republicans like me. Because he is mostly a RINO.
I want a viable third, fourth, fifth, etc. parties.
But until we as voters get rid of the bums on both sides, we'll get more of the same.
As much as you libs hate the Iraq war, more Iraqis vote percentage-wise than Americans.
How sad is that?
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I am not sure Palin is a "centerist" Republican. Chuck Hagel is a centerist. Palin is a Christian conservative and too far to the right to be mistaken for a centerist.
Other than this minor quibble.... I agree with the rest of your post. I,too, will vote but can't say I am happy with either candidat...and look forward to the day when viable candidates from a third party emerge.
Posted by tomg130 on August 30, 2008 at 10:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
For those who have questions about the investigation in to Palin's actions in regaurds to the investigation. I find her actions quite justified (BTW Wooten is the one she had fired)
On July 17 , the Public Safety Employees Association , with Wooten's permission, released the investigative file on the complaints the Palins, Palin's father and others had brought against the trooper.
The internal investigation began in April 2005 , long before Palin became governor and months before her October 2005 announcement that she was running. The investigation into Wooten wrapped up in March 2006 .
Troopers found four instances in which Wooten violated policy, broke the law, or both:
— Wooten used a Taser on his stepson
— He shot a moose without a permit, which is illegal. At the time, he was married to McCann, who has a permit but never intended to shoot it herself.
— He drank beer in his patrol car on one occasion.
— He told others that his father-in-law, Palin's father, Chuck Heath , would "eat a f'ing lead bullet" if he helped his daughter get an attorney for the divorce.
Posted by mbs0606 on August 30, 2008 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
She's so purty!
Posted by Gus on August 30, 2008 at 1:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
How in the H*LL can anyone vote for McCain after he selected this hockey mom to be his running mate?? This selection shows a shocking lack of judgement. Sarah Palin was the mayor of a town the size of Sweetwater and Govenor of a state with less population than Dallas/Ft Worth!! That is the extent of her experience. She has multiple children, a handicapped baby at home and she is running off to play in Washington with an elderly man. She does not have the experience, the expertise, nor credibility to run this country. And folks that is what will likely happen. McCain is 72 yrs old and has been critically ill 4 times in the past years. We have lost our minds in this country. Can't you see it now? The red phone rings at 3am, wakes the kids, the baby is crying, and the husband is off on a dog race in Alaska, and the President is dead. Now we have Ms. Sarah running the country. The Taliban is probably on a 3 day bender celebrating this stroke of luck for them.
And any woman who supported Hillary Clinton and now supports this woman is a fraud. Ms. Palin stands for NOTHING that supports women's rights. The more I read about her, the more I believe she is D. Cheney in a dress...only she might be a better shot with a shotgun.
God Bless America and keep us safe from idiocy.
Posted by robertwp on August 30, 2008 at 5:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As a Democrat I am tickled beyond belief over McCain's choice for VP. I was having wonderful dreams about him picking a Mormon or maybe Larry Craig but he surprised me beyond by wildest dreams. I am so sick of hearing about experience and qualifications for president that I could puke and McCain has completely hushed those conversations for good. That issue has been settled by this ridiculous choice. Also, as a Democrat, I was a little worried that McCain might select someone with charisma and appeal that would give him an edge in a campaign that was slipping away from him day by day. This woman, I can't recall her name, will certainly not give him a boost but will certainly be a rock tied to his leg as he tries to tread water. As a Texan, McCain's VP choice has a voice that makes me feel like clawing my eyes out. I had barely gotten used to Hillary's Yankee twang when this little beauty queen came along and started my headache all over again.
Y'all better get used to the sound of President Obama. McCain has lost his marbles and we have yet to get to see him hugging and kissing GWB and D. Cheney on the TV. God bless him!
Posted by Abilene_Libertarian on August 31, 2008 at 2:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It is a shame that we have to be stuck with McCain, to get Palin.
We should ammend the Constitution to have the two offices filled separately. It is wrong to have to elect the pair together. Each should run on their separate merits. That way we will get a popular President, as well as a popular Vice President, maybe even from different parties.
Posted by Abilene_Libertarian on August 31, 2008 at 2:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
By The Way, do you know that both the Dems and the Repubs missed the filling deadline for president on the Texas ballot?
The SOS's site had blanks for Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates (Dem and Rep) and only the Libertarian and write-ins two days after the deadline. It now shows Obama and McCain, even though the Dems didn't get the paperwork in in time, and even though the Reps don't yet have a nominee.
Expect lawsuits to be filled to have the names removed.
Slice me if you wish. these are the facts, and I need not defend them.
Posted by dr__dawggy on August 31, 2008 at 1:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Libertarians invoking the cloak of government intervention to accomplish their aims. There's something amusingly ironic about that.
Posted by Abilene_Libertarian on August 31, 2008 at 2:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Dawg, We Libertarians do not want to use government, we want government to stop using us, ALL of us, to accomplish THEIR aims.
There is a difference in this, and in what you wrote.
Libertarians will understand the difference.
Posted by dr__dawggy on August 31, 2008 at 5:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You want to use the courts to remove the names of the mainstream candidates, clearing the way for your guy to win in Texas. This is not a matter of libertarians using government This will stop government from using us. Got it. Thanks for clarifying.
Posted by Abilene_Libertarian on August 31, 2008 at 11:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I want all candidates to be treated the same. If a Libertarian is stupid enough to fail to meet the deadline, He gets no extension.
The Dem and Rep National Parties knew about the Texas deadline, yet they each chose to set their conventions after that date. The D and R National committees caused their Committee Chairs to be not able to file in time. The law should apply to them as well.
BTW, McCain is not the Republican Party's candidate for President until the Convention (not held yet) endorses him. Texas has placed him on the list of official candidates illegally, and Libertarian lawywers will sue the state to have his name removed from the ballot, as well as Obama's (for late filing.)
Of course, few high court justices owe Libertarian voters as much as they owe D and R voters, so the courts will probably endorse the illegal activities of the State, but it's going to cost Texas taxpayers, and create a great deal of national attention for both Libertarians, and Bob Barr.
Yes, I want the only candidate legally placed on the list to be the only candidate named on the ballot.
Wouldn't you want your candidater to enjoy that advantage?
Sure would help McCain if he were the only name in all states. He might not lose to Obamma that way.
Posted by robertwp on September 1, 2008 at 8:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
There is no way on this earth that Texas is going to use this to keep Obama and McCain off of the ballot. They will bend the rules and any lawsuits will be a huge waste of money. McCain will put in the effort to see to it that this is resolved soon because it would certainly mean that he would lose the election in spite of his pretty little beauty queen moose hunter.
Posted by robertwp on September 1, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
McCain already looks tired. He is worn out. If we are to believe that he is the one calling the shots in his campaign then he selected her based on one meeting and no research into her past. Her hometown newspaper, which doesn't have online archives, has said that they were not contacted for research. Miss Alaska runner up may turn out to be the greatest president ever but McCain's choice shows extremely poor judgment. McCain had to know that Palin's daughter was pregnant out of wedlock and was planning on keeping the baby and marrying the father. There is speculation that the McCain campaign has released this info to counter rumors that Palin’s youngest child is in fact her grandchild. This doesn’t look good. It is a heck of a way to dampen the first day of the convention. Is this the most disgusting appeal to the anti-choice crowd? Are they that desperate?
McCain’s people have picked a potential VP that can deliver him Alaska's 3 electoral votes. If he is counting on that close of a race then he needs to go to a good Arizona spa and get some serious revitalization or he will never make it.
It would be very easy for the McCain camp to cut their losses on the Beauty Queen today before this idiocy hasn't gone too far. She hasn't accepted the nomination yet. It will probably sink the campaign but I think that at this point it is sunk.
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